Intro
I blogged sometime ago on the emergent church and Solomon’sPorch. More recently I discovered a blog by one of the leaders of that movement
and that specific church, Tony Jones. I really like the guy. He is pro-LGBT,
pro-love, pro-thinking, not afraid to ask questions. Lately he has been talking
about liberal Christians. I’m not sure what he is trying to say, but it is
something about how they don’t say enough about who God is.
He gave an example of some wild youth pastors who on their recent
podcast, he says, “repeatedly and forcefully said things about who God is and
how God acts.” I listened to that whole podcast, then repeated parts of it and
heard the two hosts, Tripp and Bo (yes, really, Tripp and Bo) skirt issues,
talk about what God is not, and a few times say something right out of standard
texts about letting Jesus in and how it will change your outlook on life.
Tony challenged progressive theological bloggers to writesomething substantive about God. I’m not one of those, but I used to think I
was, so, here goes.
The podcast that I will be referring to is here. The audio is linked in the small print between the two graphics after the blurb
and before the comments. The first few minutes is announcements. I provide a
couple spots to skip to if you can’t handle the whole thing.
Who is God?
If someone were to ask me what I believe about who God is,
the first thing I would do is correct the question. The question is, what is God?
God is not a “who”. God is neither male or female, old or young, you can find
that in the Bible. God is a term that is used as a placeholder for things we do
not yet understand. God has always been everything, the original cause. We don’t
understand either of those. When we didn’t understand lightning or rainbows, God
did it. When we made our way around the world, learned to feed billions and
travel toward the stars, we had less need for God, but we still don’t
understand how to live with each other and not kill each other, so we keep the
old books around. We keep hoping for an answer.
Some say we have lost our ability to talk about God. Pastors
and theologians who are labeled progressive, liberal or even just mainline,
talk about social issues but not about how Christ moves in the world. This is
somehow considered a problem when compared to those who are usually labeled
conservative. They are often very specific about God acting in response to a
flood or in the heart of a child or helping us win a battle overseas or perhaps
even cure someone of a disease. I can understand why someone who wants to have
a serious political discussion would not use those terms.
But let’s examine someone who uses contemporary language,
someone who reaches the youth of today and gets them to go fix up houses for
elderly people on their summer vacation.
In the above linked podcast, about a half hour in, a discussion of
the Sermon on the Mount begins. Good, basic advice on leading a decent life
until you get near the end then it talks about not getting into heaven if you
mess up. Tripp and Bo address this around the 38 minute mark. Tripp talks about
wrath using the specific example of the consequences of lying.
That is, he says a common way to express the consequences
that lying inevitably leads to is to say the wrath of God has been delivered
upon you. But then he says that we don’t need to call that "wrath", rather “that’s
what happens when you think that the broad way that leads to destruction is how
you’re supposed to live” as opposed to the narrow way that leads to the good
life and eventually heaven.
What he is saying is actions have consequences. He is simply
tacking on God language and praising Jesus for providing the narrow path. The
only thing that is a little unusual is that he lets God off the hook for
whatever consequences one might discover on the broad path. This really doesn’t
matter and changes almost nothing theologically.
The conclusion, that it is better to just not lie, as well
as others that they discuss, can be arrived at independently of Bible study, independently
of accepting Jesus into your heart. They almost say that, but then tack on that
the “narrow way leads to life”. They provide no explanation of how that works.
They don’t explain how prayer offers any type of nourishment. They suggest that
making wise choices will most likely lead to happiness, but a lot of
non-Christians know that. They discuss some of the actual ways lies lead to
trouble, but just assert that not praying is bad.
Another example. A little after the 52 minute point, Bo
comes in with an impromptu play with Tripp playing the role of a Christian who
wants to justify violence. Tripp’s character confronts Bo with the classic
questions of what would you do if someone is raping your wife and 'what about
Hitler'. He does not supply any details, but he says that there are alternatives
to violence and that the few passages about Jesus flipping over tables or
telling the disciples to go get swords are far outnumbered by the peaceful passages,
so Jesus is peaceful, end of discussion. All those years I spent in Bible study
and all I had to do was count up passages for and against. Yay, peace wins, spread
the word.
Tripp comes back with an impassioned story of a time when he
was fretting over understanding Jesus and how he fit into the grand story,
theologically speaking. One of his mentors got him to read the gospels and “tell
me about the beautiful parts”. This got him to stop trying to figure out
philosophical arguments for the existence of God or explanations of the Trinity
and just love the Bible and look into the world and think about how he could
bring that love to the world.
Well, that’s awesome. Unfortunately a lot of people read the
Bible and enjoy the parts where Jesus says he’s going to separate the wheat
from the chaff and throw the chaff in the fire. They are inspired by that and
think it is their duty to find some of that chaff and burn it for Jesus now,
save him the trouble. A quick look at who is running major corporations and
getting into congress lately and you’ll know this is not just some fringe
problem.
Liberal/progressive/mainline theologians understand this.
That’s why they don’t use emotionally charged language about blindly following invisible
voices, they know what it leads to. They tell a story about a man who told
others to put away their swords and stuck to his principle of non-violence even
in the face of death. Then they talk about how to work for peace with justice
without laying down your life. I don’t have a problem with that and can’t
figure why Tony does.
When Tony says, “progressives write lots of books and blog
posts about social issues,… but we don’t write that much about God.” What I
hear is, these so-called progressives are taking the next step. Instead of
looking to the Bible, finding “the beautiful parts”, i.e. the ones you agree
with, then trying to bring those into the world, they are simply finding beauty
in the world and acting accordingly.
The Bible contains luminous stories that can help us start
discussions about healing and caring. A lot of books do. We should be
reading all of them, discussing all of them. We should be moving forward and
writing our own stories. Instead Tony is asking us to figure out this one
character that has been used and exploited by hundreds of generations and
changed so many times that no one could possibly make something coherent out of
it. Sorry Tony, but that’s who God is. If the old books tell us anything,
especially the later ones like Romans (see 13:8), it’s time we started figuring
things out for ourselves.
